Brugerdiskussion:Cold Season
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Hi, about your edit, there is something I would like you to clarify, looking up the image on commons and the descriptions, and considering the contents, it's pretty clear the image depicts the "four beauties" the issue seems to be the names of these figures. This means you shouldn't remove the picture, but rather change the names. Could you please explain why you removed the picture, instead? Can you also clarify the apparent differences in names from place to place when I look it up? -- Best regards Vrenak (diskussion) 14. jan 2018, 23:04 (CET)
- The images depicts four beauties, sure. But they are not THE four beauties, as they are not grouped as such.--Cold Season (diskussion) 14. jan 2018, 23:25 (CET)
- That was most unclear. The four beauties are four metaphorical women from mythology, and not 4 historic persons. I'd like a lot more detail on why you think this picture is not appropriate, leaving aside for now the mismatch of names. -- Vrenak (diskussion) 14. jan 2018, 23:29 (CET)
- The "Four Beauties" as a cultural concept comprises four specific women, who are Xi Shi, Diaochan, Wang Zhaojun, and Yang Guifei. The image depicts four other women, but not as a singular cultural concept. If you think otherwise, you are free to provide a reference that this grouping is viewed as the cultural concept "Four Beauties", and not just four women (called "beauties" here) who are arbitrarily-chosen to be printed together in the image. --Cold Season (diskussion) 14. jan 2018, 23:40 (CET)
- The names are the specific part here, which in part explains your action, but only in part. The image title strongly indicates that the four women in the picture is a representation of the four beauties, and not just 4 random pretty ladies, this is why your action is being questioned.
- The "Four Beauties" as a cultural concept comprises four specific women, who are Xi Shi, Diaochan, Wang Zhaojun, and Yang Guifei. The image depicts four other women, but not as a singular cultural concept. If you think otherwise, you are free to provide a reference that this grouping is viewed as the cultural concept "Four Beauties", and not just four women (called "beauties" here) who are arbitrarily-chosen to be printed together in the image. --Cold Season (diskussion) 14. jan 2018, 23:40 (CET)
- That was most unclear. The four beauties are four metaphorical women from mythology, and not 4 historic persons. I'd like a lot more detail on why you think this picture is not appropriate, leaving aside for now the mismatch of names. -- Vrenak (diskussion) 14. jan 2018, 23:29 (CET)
- This picture also apparently depicts these, what can you say about this picture, a better choice? -- Vrenak (diskussion) 14. jan 2018, 23:50 (CET)
- The whole cultural concept revolve around four specific women (who are clearly defined), not just any four women. That's the point that I'm trying to explain to you. And no, the museum source for that image also explains that those women derive from a scene in the novel "The Red Chamber Dream" and thus do not represent the specific and well-defined cultural concept "Four Beauties". Do what you will, and add things not backed up in reliable sources; I'm done correcting erroneous information. --Cold Season (diskussion) 15. jan 2018, 00:08 (CET)